This is pretty amazing. I really gave Paterno every benefit of the doubt that he didn't cover this up. But it's pretty obvious he was as gulty as sin. PSU is really in some hot water. The lawsuits that are going to now come from this are going to be outrageous. They better start opening their wallets...I've got to admit I've never been a Paterno fan ever since he made that statement back in the early 80's that "he didn't want to leave college football to the Barry Switzer's of the world." That hit a little too close to home for me. Amazing how stupid statements like that can come back to bite you in the ass. Lucky that Joe Pedahelper is dead so he doesn't have to face this embarassement.
Switzer pretty much got his revenge on Paterno when OU spanked Penn State to win the national championship back in the mid 80's. But I was just surprised at the time to hear Paterno make that kind of statement. Because of the possible repucussions, you very seldom hear coaches on a national level say those kinds of things about other coaches. But Paterno was pretty much untouchable back then.
And there is the State of Pennsylvania politics involved (big time "stuff"). Penn State football will be back because of enertia alone not to mention the "Happy Valley" allure.
And, people frpm Pennsylvania drink a lot (all the way from Philedelphia to Pittsburg and all points in between (not everyone in that State are Quakers.
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They will dig-in and state we have noo need to paay the price for the sins of a few others.
what's crazy is the Paterno family decides to release a letter Joe Pa wrote before he died to say how the sandusky situation should in no way diminish what he accomplished in 5 decades? are you fucking serious?
then today, Schultz's lawyer was asked what he thought of the Freeh report. his answer? "I don't expect I'll be reading it for a while," said attorney Tom Farrell. "I've got other things to do."
the sickness at Ass-slappy Valley will continue unless this program is closed up
then today, Schultz's lawyer was asked what he thought of the Freeh report. his answer? "I don't expect I'll be reading it for a while," said attorney Tom Farrell. "I've got other things to do."
the sickness at Ass-slappy Valley will continue unless this program is closed up
NBC Sports has already published an article advocating the death penalty.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/48126484/ns/sports-college_football?ns=sports-college_football
the first of many?
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/48126484/ns/sports-college_football?ns=sports-college_football
the first of many?
It's EVERYONE in the state that should be ashamed because they they supported what happened, instead of what should have happened or what should have been done but wasn't. Even today, the donations at PSU for its football program are at an all-time high. It's EVERYONE!! Hardly a soul in the entire state even bothers to look away. And if they do exist, where are those people?
well i assume you mean everyone affiliated with the school, not the entire state. (in case you don't know we're a heavily split state of PSU haters and PSU lovers...me being the former). Anyway, if you meant affiliated with the school you're exactly right. they said psu had the 2nd highest amt of donations in football last year...freaking ridiculous. even yesterday, a group of PSU students were kneeling and praying outside of joe pa's house. they're complete lunatics. The only former player I've heard condemning joe pa is lavar arrington who was a staunch supporter of his until about 10am yesterday. Millen, Franco, Ham, Short, Brady, and the rest of these nitter nutters can rot in fn hell with their lord and savior, joe pa
i personally donate to pitt every year...wife was a grad and i'm a supporter. but, i'd certainly suspend all donations if anything like this occurred at the program. i wouldn't INCREASE my donation like a nutty nitter. i broke my promise of never entering state college last sept when bama was in town but glad i got to see them kick joe pa's ass into the grave
That's right. As one who wouldn't equate Pitt or anything about Pitt with PSU, I wound up overstating the situation a bit, but you got my intention right. I'd normally have to take a step back to see both schools in the same region, normally I wouldn't see them that way... perhaps slightly challenged geographically on account of places like Punxatawney that confuse me even further.
Hearing you mention Lavar Arrington switching up on the issue does me good to hear about it. It also adds perhaps TOO MUCH credibility to the PSU community FWIW.... but good for him. At least there's one man in PSU land that can think and chew gum simultaneosly. I am disgusted with the entire football community's response, runnning to the side of the sexual deviate and hearing next to nothing about concern for the victims. Remind me to stay away from that place.
By the way, JoPa's been covering up crap of all types for many years. There was a piece on his players in "Between the Lines" or maybe it was on ESPN a few years ago that I found and posted here. The special was about the rising rate of delinquency amongst PSU players over the previous few years. JoPa called it a witch-hunt in his own inimical style. That turned me off to the man way back when. His reaction smelled pretty foul.
Did you know that PSU is one of the few schools never to have been called out by the NCAA for any infraction? Perhaps the fear to stand up to him runs a lot deeper than we know.
This is likely one of the dumbest statements I have heard on this board, I expect more from you Conan. The supporters of this university, which I am not, certainly had no idea this was taking place. Your talking about an institution of hundreds of thousands alumni, billions of revenue generated for the state and countless accounts of the university strengthen this city, community and state.
Like I said, I'm not a supporter, but I do have a responsibility to hire, and we hire heavy Penn State. What happened is unreal, and my personal opinion would be to prosecute those involved in the cover up to the letter of the law, including Paterno. Tear the statue down, erase the records, and put the other assholes in prison as accomplices. However, your talking about 6-8 people from a major corporation of hundreds of thousands. To chastise the entire university is foolish, naive and apparently the thing to do over drinks, the water cooler, on sports forums or at dining outings.
In the local community its somewhat hilarious that the most noise of "shut the place down", "force them to close their doors", " change the name of the school", comes from local alumni of other universities. I can see why, having to hire people for many years in this state, nine times out of ten, a PSU candidate versus any other state school, all else being equal, makes the competitor obsolete. The difference in academic prowess and day one readiness to enter the workforce is incredible. For this fact, and this fact alone my company will send another huge check to Penn State, and I fully support that. This is my livelihood and I won't sacrifice it for a handful of criminals. Hell, if I disregarded the masses for a few, in this city, everyone would be disregarded.
Outside of Penn and Villanova, whom most of their graduates go out of state anyway for higher paying jobs, Penn State replenishes the work force. The 100,000 legitimate people associated with this university should not be punished to the one bad egg. I hear you, drop the hammer on these six-eight assholes involved in the cover up, but to chastise the entire university is foolish. Christ, if I'm forced to hire Pitt, LaSalle, St. Joes, Rutgers, Temple, Kutztown, Shippensburg and Rider grads because Penn State was forced to shut their doors - this community has a problem. If I'm forced to go out of state we have an even bigger problem - I have seen candidates on paper who mirror Penn State grads from some big "name" schools (football schools) who were better equipped to bag my groceries then work at my company.
Take a step back, view the big picture. This isn't about football and to talk of shutting down one of the premier universities in the country is utterly ridiculous.
